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Lennon Flowers and the Reverend Jennifer Bailey embody what I experience as a particular

wisdom of millennials. They've each founded non-traditional organizations that are attending to human

needs the world they were born into did not know what to do with. Lennon, whose mother died when

she was in college, has helped create a national movement for opening up about grief and loss in

the lives of young people over shared meals. Jen is a celebrated innovator at the intersection of

among other things, theology, community organizing, spiritual sustainability, and intergenerational

accompaniment. Together, they've also made over 1,500 people's suffers happen across the political

chasms of the last few years. In the words they use, the practices they cultivate, the way they think,

the issue and invitation to something different from safe space, brave space.

We don't need to confuse safe spaces with comfortable spaces, and we don't have to understand

everything about each other in order to be present with one another. I think that we like

have mistaken empathy, you know, as walking in someone else's shoes. Let us be clear you can't,

but what we can do is witness and accompany. If we're going to do the work of what it means to grow

into being fully human, to grow into the promise of America, to grow into to be in process,

yeah, then we have to be teachable, we have to be moldable, we have to be willing to engage one

another and be wrong sometimes. I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being.

Reverend Jennifer Bailey is founder and leader of the Faith Matters Network. Lenin Flowers is

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