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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Jeffrey Toobin Talks to David Remnick About Gerrymandering

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

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🗓️ 6 November 2017

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Jeffrey Toobin tells David Remnick that, despite the mounting indictments against members of Donald Trump’s Presidential campaign, Trump is almost certainly safe from impeachment. Republican House members, Toobin says, have no incentive to moderate their support of the President—despite his low national poll numbers—because the only competition these representatives face is from the right flank of their own party. Gerrymandering, assisted by the latest computer modelling, has allowed the party in power in each state to lock itself into a nearly unassailable majority of votes. The Supreme Court could conceivably change that in a redistricting case called Gill v. Whitford, which Toobin has written about; he tells David Remnick that it is “the most important Supreme Court case in decades.” Hinging on the swing vote of Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court will decide whether it can act as a check on gerrymandering, or whether a functioning two-party system can fade into history.

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I'm Dorothy Wickenderah. On today's politics and more podcast, David Remneck talks to New Yorker staff writer Jeffrey Tubin. Tubin was present for oral arguments in a recent

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Supreme Court case concerning gerrymandering and discusses why this might be the most important case before

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the court in decades.

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We're more or less one year out from the election of Donald Trump.

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And that election continues to raise a lot more questions than answers.

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Let's put it that way, at least for now.

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Last week, we saw the first charges come down from the Robert Mueller probe,

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and from what we gather, we've only seen the start. So I wanted to start with Jeffrey

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Tubin, who's been watching the investigation very, very closely for us. Jeff is a staff writer

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at The New Yorker and a legal analyst for CNN. Jeff, I'd like to begin by talking about the election last year,

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