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hey how's it going my friend can you can you hear me okay because I cannot hear you? Let's have a look

Let's get you unmuted, shall we? What is your microphone? What kind of microphone are you using? What kind of

hey can you see the chat check check check get? Let me know? There we go. There we go. Just had to get the setting set for you. How are you?

Good to see you. I noticed behind you is a book called Sit Downs with Gangsters.

I did a lot of those. So I was the chief of the organized crime unit as a prosecutor so

We can talk about real sit-downs with real gangsters if you want

What state was that? I was it federal New York. Yeah, I was a fed in New York and Manhattan.

So New York City, mafia.

Well, did you come up? There's two American gangsters in that book.

One's Michael Francise and the other is John A Liette. Oh well Michael Francise is somebody I know of

I think I've ever met him but I've heard him on a million podcast. John A Light was a witness in a case We did the case against John Gotti Jr. So I spent a lot, many, many hours with John A Light. Yeah, know him well. Oh, well, that's fascinating. Yeah, he came out to the UK and we did an event with him here.

He's also all these gangsters have turned into podcasters now.

It's like a whole underground universe of gangsters turn cooperators turn podcasters God bless them.

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