Jeffrey Epstein Associate Found DEAD
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
4.4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2022
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
As Jeffrey Epstein's associate Jean-Luc Brunel is found hanged in a prison cell - after being accused of rape and supplying underage girls to the late US financier - we discuss the latest in this scandal. What does Prince Andrew's settlement with Virginia Giuffre really mean? What about the victim blaming against Virginia and other survivors? With Epstein and Brunel both dead, will we ever finally get the truth? What does this tell us about power on both sides of the Atlantic - and wider issues about child abuse, male violence against girls and women, and human trafficking? And what happens next?
We're joined by two brilliant guests - journalist and Lucia Osborne-Crowley and barrister Dr. Charlotte Proudman
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the show. We've started on time. Come on, that's impressive. |
| 0:12.0 | We've had a few delays. As of late, we did. We were speaking to, for example, people in Ukraine |
| 0:18.6 | and juggling things. We're tricky sometimes, but this time we are very, very prompt. We've got |
| 0:23.3 | quite the show today. We are talking about the latest developments in, I suppose, what could |
| 0:27.6 | be loosely described as the Epstein saga. One of Jeffrey Epstein's associates has been found |
| 0:36.0 | dead in a prison, much, of course, like Jeffrey Epstein himself. This is Jean-Luc Brunel. |
| 0:41.8 | Now, I'm just going to generally stick Stockham's razor, which is the simplest explanation is normally |
| 0:47.7 | the lightest. I don't normally, I don't indulge tinfoil, hattery, if you like. I don't think the |
| 0:54.5 | moonlight things were fake, et cetera. Various people, I don't just bring up an example. This is |
| 1:01.1 | Enerze Afzal, who is a former CPS prosecutor. Jean-Luc Brunel has in quote, scare quotes, |
| 1:09.3 | committed suicide. He was accused of curing young girls for Jeffrey Epstein's abuse, |
| 1:12.9 | Friends of Gisla in Maxwell, and named by Virginia Giefrey as one of her abusers. He was a waiting |
| 1:18.3 | trial in France for sexual abuse. I'm no conspiracy theory, but dot, dot. Now we don't, I mean, |
| 1:23.5 | we're speculating, and maybe that's not that productive. What we do know is, once again, |
| 1:29.6 | someone who is accused of heinous, heinous crimes, we're talking about the sexual abuse of girls |
| 1:37.8 | has escaped justice and will not be on trial for those allegations, including supplying, |
| 1:45.2 | trafficking, girls for Epstein and his associates as well as allegations of rape. |
| 1:52.6 | Now, we want to talk about the specifics of the latest developments, not least, of course, |
| 1:57.7 | Prince Andrew's settlement. What does that mean? What does the settlement mean? What does it mean |
| 2:01.7 | in terms of Prince Andrew? But obviously, we want to talk about the wider issues, and that is, |
| 2:06.0 | of course, male violence against girls and women, the issues of child sex abuse or trafficking. These |
| 2:12.5 | are very, very important issues, and I'll bring in very shortly to, we couldn't have better guests |
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