New York has a new governor, but the most interesting gubernatorial news in the United

States right now is probably out west in California, where Gavin Newsom is facing a recall

election, and where conservative radio host Larry Elder seems to be a formidable competitor.

So what should you know about the recall election?

What should you know about Elder?

How is he treating the media?

Those are a few of the questions for this week's Reliable Sources podcast.

So let's cue the music.

I'm Brian Stelter, and this weekly podcast is our chance to go more in-depth with media

leaders and newsmakers, talking about how the news gets made.

Who decides what's news and what leads the front page?

Well, if you look at Los Angeles Times and other California papers, you will see that

the recall, this looming election, is top of mind, is front and center, and in the past

couple of weeks, it has become national news as well.

I'm seeing more and more national coverage of this looming recall.

So let's go to California and talk about what Larry Elder's rise as a candidate means,

and how reporters are trying to tell the full story about Elder as well as Newsom and

the other candidates.

Jean Guerrero is with me.

She's a columnist for the Los Angeles Times.

She's previously the author of Hate Monger, a book about Steven Miller, Donald Trump,

and what she called the white nationalist agenda.

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