I first knew Joshua Draper as a basketball player. He was one of the homies I used to play ball with,

but then he caught my wife's eye. And ultimately, in our expanded relationship constellation,

there was an opening for Vailana Marcus and Joshua Draper to explore what that possibility might look like.

And what emerged was an incredible amount of beauty and gifts,

not only on the musical side of things, which Josh is incredibly musically talented,

but also the gift of improv, an art form that's both ancient

and modern, and allows you to tap into those internal, instinctual forces of what's alive

right now in the present moment. So this podcast explores not only the nuances of an expanded relationship

container, but also the beauty of improv as an art form for both laughter and celebration and also

catharsis and also exploration of who you are as a human being. So I hope you guys enjoy this podcast with Bailana Marcus and Joshua Draper.

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