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The Gist

JD Vance, Jimmy Kimmel, and America's Radical Underground

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

It's the Saturday show. One from the week, one from the vault. First, a look at JD Vance on the mic with Charlie Kirk and the culture wars of today. Then, we rewind a decade to my interview with Brian Burrow, author of Days of Rage, on the radical underground and the turbulence of the 1970s.

Produced by Corey Wara

Production Coordinator Ashley Khan

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Saturday. It's the Saturday show, and I would say it's been a dispiriting week.

0:09.1

There was death the week before in recrimination this week, and neither cycle was good.

0:16.2

But you know what I sometimes like to do? Well, on Saturday, I like to reflect and aid you in the reflection.

0:21.3

So I'm going to give you a segment that I recorded about J.D. Vance, hopping on the microphone,

0:28.1

occupied with Charlie Kirk, and talking about all the things he talked about and how he defined

0:33.0

the left, at least in that moment, and who the right might be coming for.

0:37.0

Cut to Jimmy Kimmel, you're off the air.

0:39.3

But for perspective, let's go back 10 years to an excellent book interview I did, which goes back even longer.

0:48.2

The author is Brian Burrow, and he has written a really indispensable book.

0:54.2

It came out a decade ago.

0:55.8

That's when our talk was.

0:57.2

The title is Days of Rage, America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence.

1:05.1

I say, don't forget.

1:07.3

Join me in remembering as we replay this interview from a decade ago about an era, decades before, that we are in danger of, as per Santa Ana, forgetting and therefore perhaps being doomed to repeat.

1:38.8

I've been wearing a lot of true work clothing because I like it, because it looks good and feels good. But that's not even why true work exists. True work exists to make workware that keeps pros comfortable,

1:45.7

capable, and ready for whatever the day throws at them. It was made by a guy who studied this

1:51.7

very hard, looked at canvas and denim and the things we were working in and sweating in

1:58.4

and that weren't holding up to our tasks. I use true work

2:03.5

because, well, they gave me a couple. And then I said, ooh, I want more. And they gave me a couple

2:09.0

more. And every once in a while, you can catch me working around and walking about fully clad,

2:16.0

head to toe in the true work I got a hoodie the

2:19.5

wubby hoodie I don't know why they call it this it is wind resistant and it

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