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It's Bolzai. I'm Jesse Thorne. I want to get into my next guest with a song. Chui, if you would.

Chooey, if you would. That's a love the lie with her.

And along with push and chill.

That's compared to what?

By Roberta Flack, the first song on her debut album.

You can hear that bass line, right? It's an upright bass.

Catchy, funky, mesmerizing. It alternates between foreground and background seemingly effortlessly.

It is a masterclass in that instrument, by my guest Ron Carter. He played bass

on the entire album. In a career that spans over five decades, Carter has played jazz, classical,

soul, even hip-hop. He's won three Grammys, worked with Miles Davis, Alice Coltrane, Aretha Franklin,

Herbie Hancock, Billy Joel, a tribe called Quest. I could go on,

but this is an interview show, not a naming famous musical acts show. When I talked with Carter,

just a few years ago, he was gearing up to celebrate his 85th birthday at Carnegie Hall. These days,

he is 88, and he is unstoppable. Let's kick things off with a little

bit of Carter's latest record. It's called Sweet Sweet Spirit. It's a gospel album. It's also a tribute

to Carter's mother, featuring covers of her favorite hymns. Here's farther along.

Father along will know our of her favorite hymns. Here's farther along. Ron Carter, welcome to Bullseye.

I'm so happy to have you on the show.

Thanks for the welcoming, and thanks for the sunshine you brought today.

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