Spiegel and Holmes afternoons on the score.

But going back to what you said, Ben Johnson saying he wants to see Caleb Williams be more of a point guard instead of a shooting guard.

A point guard, they distribute, right? They get the ball out. They're okay with having just a quick pass.

Quick pass if you go from there, as opposed to the shooting guard, they want to make all the plays.

They want all the points. So Caleb Williams, when he starts scrambling around, trying to make something out of nothing,

he doesn't need that.

He just wants Caleb to sit in the pocket, once he hits his back foot, throw it to the guy

at the first option.

If it's not there, throw your checkdown and let your playmakers play.

It's one of the good moments from the broadcast yesterday.

They had a rough day yesterday on the broadcast.

Kenny or Vilma or Megan or everybody.

Megan's only problem was that Ben got snippy and didn't come out for the halftime interview.

So Ben Johnson blew me off, but here's what I think he was worried about as opposed to talking to me.

That ain't right.

It's not right.

No.

Mr. Transparency.

Here's Swift once again.

Bolloh.

It's up for the broken leg last year.

And this is recovered by the Lions.

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