Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Very good.

Well, it's nice to have you here. I don't know if you remember me, but I study the

Cosmic microwave background radiation. And today we're going to talk a lot about the early

history of cosmology, in particular,

Giant's work in his books.

I have two of his books here, which I referenced

in my book, losing the Nobel Prize.

This one, Current issues in cosmology and this one facts and

speculations in cosmology and the first thing I want to begin with is, if Giant, if you can explain how you got, how you first met Jeffrey Burbage, my late colleague at UC San Diego.

How did you first meet Jeff Burbage?

How you met Jeffrey Burbage. So what happened was I had been a student of Fred Hoyle in Cambridge and I used to hear about him from Fred.

And then one day he turned up in Cambridge. He both he and

Margaret and there was a great deal of excitement as if some heroes have come.

The names had preceded them.

So a number of us students were waiting to talk to them and he came and then we had a informal talk to

we had a informal talk and then he disappeared.

Then I saw him only when I went to San Diego.

That was a little later.

And how did you meet Fred Hoyle?

Oh, how did I meet Fred Hoyle?

He was your advisor?

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