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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Jay Shetty on Pursuing What You Love, from IMO

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Sharing a new show from my friends at Higher Ground, called IMO. You know on Happier, Gretchen gives practical advice meant to uplift you, help you reach goals, and leave you feeling fulfilled. Similarly on IMO, Michelle Obama and her big brother Craig Robinson tackle real questions from real folks just like you offering practical advice, personal storytelling, and plenty of laughs.

Each week, they’re joined by a guest, bringing candid perspectives to the everyday questions shaping our lives, relationships and the world around us. Topics range from dating and relationships, to family and faith. Michelle and Craig share stories about being there for each other throughout their lives, from first crushes and fraught college years, to landing at the White House, to losing their mom. For six decades they’ve been each others’ most trusted counsel—and now, they want to be that counsel for you. 

In this episode, renowned life coach and podcaster Jay Shetty joins Michelle and Craig to puzzle through a listener's question about professional ambition and dating. The trio discuss money in relationships, finding balance between work and romance, and Michelle shares her advice for choosing a life partner. They ask: Is the pursuit of perfection—in work or dating—worth it?

You can find more episodes of IMO at https://lnk.to/imomichellecraigHA

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Hey, happier listeners. I am dropping into your feeds with something a little different and really special.

0:06.5

It's a new show from my friends at Higher Ground, hosted by Michelle Obama, called IMO.

0:13.0

You know, on Happier with Gretchen Rubin, I give practical advice meant to lift you up and help you reach goals and fulfillment.

0:20.0

Similarly, on IMO, Michelle and her

0:22.5

big brother, Craig Robinson, tackle real questions for real folks, just like you, offering practical

0:28.6

advice, personal storytelling, and plenty of laughter. Each week, they're joined by a guest,

0:34.4

bringing candid perspectives to the everyday questions shaping our lives,

0:38.3

relationships, and the world around us. Topics range from dating and relationships to family and

0:44.1

faith. Michelle and Craig share stories about being there for each other throughout their lives,

0:48.6

from first crushes and frock college years to landing at the White House to losing their mom. For six decades,

0:55.7

they've been each other's most trusted counsel, and now they want to be that counsel for you.

1:01.0

Okay, here comes the preview. You can find more episodes of IMO wherever you get podcasts.

1:07.9

If you can't see something in your mind, you can't create it in your life.

1:13.2

And so instead of looking at life through these two extremes, maybe there's a middle path.

1:19.5

And the middle path could be that, wait a minute, maybe I don't need to quit my job.

1:24.5

Maybe I can stay at my job and then build my passion and build my skills and learn

1:31.1

and expand my network. And maybe this thing that feels like a big risk and feels like a big jump

1:37.6

and a big leap, maybe I can make it feel like a series of steps that make it feel seamless

1:43.5

and smooth.

1:44.3

Maybe it doesn't need to be, if I don't go all in, then I'm not going to make it.

1:49.8

And I think sometimes also our mindset today is if I don't go all in, then it doesn't matter. Well, it is great to see you.

2:09.9

Hi, you.

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