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Jay Rosen on "pro-democracy" media and what the next chapter in the political journalism playbook should say

Reliable Sources

CNN

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Jay Rosen says newsrooms need to stand for "pro-democracy, pro-truth, pro-science, pro-evidence, pro-voting." The journalism professor at NYU shares thoughts about how to recalibrate and "redesign" news coverage. The biggest hurdle for journalists, he says, is recognizing how "the routines and assumptions of political journalism" collapse when covering GOP extremism and Donald Trump's lies. Rosen also responds to Jonathan Karl's recent remarks about the challenge of covering Trump, and he makes the case that some voters are now in an "information loop of their own."  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Newsrooms are always thinking ahead, and the 2024 presidential election already on the

0:06.6

horizon, how should newsrooms think differently about covering politics?

0:13.2

What should journalists do differently when confronted by anti-democratic candidates?

0:21.2

Those are a couple of the questions for this week's Reliable Sources podcast.

0:25.8

So let's cue the music.

0:28.3

I'm Brian Salter, and this weekly podcast is our chance to go more in-depth,

0:33.3

talking with media leaders and newsmakers about how the news gets made.

0:38.7

And this week, my guest is Jay Rosen, the New York University Journalism Professor,

0:44.0

an author of the Press Think blog.

0:47.3

Rosen thinks out loud in public on Twitter about how newsrooms operate,

0:52.8

what journalism standards and practices make sense, and maybe which do not.

0:58.6

He recently posted a Twitter thread about a Reliable Sources segment with ABC's John Carl.

1:05.2

One of the questions I asked Carl was about how he would cover a Donald Trump 2024

1:11.7

candidacy, and how he would approach it differently from a normal presidential campaign,

1:18.8

given Trump's anti-democratic behavior and his lie-filled speeches.

1:24.6

Carl had some interesting things to say, and Rosen took it a step further,

1:30.2

saying that newsrooms have to be thinking about these questions now.

1:36.0

This is an issue right in front of us.

1:38.8

So I asked Rosen to talk with me for an in-depth conversation here on the podcast.

1:43.2

We're going to be running a portion of this on television, but I wanted to be able to hear

1:46.9

the entire conversation. So let's get started.

1:51.2

Hey Jay, thanks so much for joining me.

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