This is the athletic football show.

Welcome to the athletic football show.

I'm Robert Mays, fun show for you guys today.

Nate Tice is going to be joining us a little bit later to talk about what we mean when we discuss draft and development in regard to college prospects.

We talk so much about the draft part of it, but we wanted to dig into what the development part of it actually means.

Before we do that, though, I am thrilled to welcome former NFL head coach, long-time NFL

assistant, Jay Gurdon.

Jay, how you doing, man?

I'm doing good.

I really appreciate you doing this because we have so many conversations before the draft

and so many of them are focused on the scouting side of this, that process, what

front offices are looking for, what they do to

hone in on players, all of that. And even when we talk about success and failure of players,

I think it's mostly put on the guys doing the picking, not the guys doing the coaching all

of the time. So I wanted to talk to you about how coaches get involved in the draft process,

what the schedule looks like, the timeline of it,

the input, the meetings, all of that stuff. So I guess first things first, what was your

first exposure to the NFL draft process as a coach? Was it when you were in Tampa with your

brother? Yeah, a little bit. More so when I became offensive coordinator with the Bengals,

we were heavily involved.

You know, Mr. Brown has his assistance. They have a very small scouting staff, and the assistant coaches are very involved in going to pro days and in the evaluation process, along with the

scouts that they do have, and a director of personnel at the time was Duke Tobin.

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