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The Playbook Podcast

January 13, 2021: Chris Hayes' guide to impeachment day

The Playbook Podcast

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🗓️ 13 January 2021

⏱️ 7 minutes

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MSNBC's Chris Hayes joins today's POLITICO Playbook audio briefing as we prep for the first-ever second impeachment day in American history.

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0:00.0

Stay tuned after the show for a message from the American Petroleum Institute.

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Good morning from New York on this, the first ever second impeachment day in American history.

0:10.4

I'm Chris Hayes. I host a nightly TV show on MSNBC called All In that airs at APM in a weekly podcast called Wise Is Happening.

0:17.9

I'm married to a brilliant law professor and ABC legal commentator who also

0:21.1

hosts a podcast because we are, of course, a two podcast household. I got three young kids and like a lot of

0:26.3

Americans, I am pretty freaked out about what's going on right now. And I'm Adrienne Hurst. This is your

0:30.8

Wednesday Politico Playbook audio briefing, where we're lucky to have today's playbook guest author,

0:35.5

Chris Hayes, join us to run through what you need to know on this historic day. So the big news today, of course, is that for the first time in the country's 244-year history, the president will be impeached for a second time. Trump was, of course, already in a rather rare company as one of the only three presidents, along with Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, to be impeached by the House.

1:17.0

He will now occupy a special and unique place of ignominy in all of American history is the only president impeached twice. Not only that, he may be headed to being the first ever to be impeached and removed, but I'm getting ahead of myself. Now the article, the single article of impeachment drafted by representatives David Cicillini, Ted Lew, and Jamie Raskin, all in the Judiciary Committee, Jimmy Raskin, who is mourning the sudden death of his 25-year-old son less than two weeks ago.

1:22.6

That single article charges President Donald Trump with incitement of an insurrection, quoting from it here.

1:26.7

President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of government.

1:30.8

He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition to power, and imperiled a co-equal branch of government. He thereby betrayed his trust as president

1:35.7

to the manifest injury of the people of the United States. The article places his incitement

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in the context of Trump's months-long effort in public and private to throw out and overturn the

1:45.5

results of a free and fair Democratic election and for the first time in American history,

1:49.2

install the clear loser in power over the clear winner.

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Now, there's no perfect precedent, really, either for what Trump did or how the article impeachment

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deals what he did.

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The closest historical analog I can muster is vice president John Calhoun's

2:01.8

role in the 1832 nullification crisis in which Calhoun, under a synonym, had previously urged South

2:07.2

Carolina openly defying nullify federal law. Calhoun, though, had the good sense to keep a sedition

2:11.7

anonymous, kind of, and he was the vice president, not the president. The closest comparison to

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