Jamil Zaki on Empathy and How to Hack It

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Comedy, Society & Culture, Science

4.7 • 3.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jamil Zaki is a Stanford scientist who has a way for you to sharpen you empathy skills. It’s a little like going to the gym to strengthen your muscles and improve your flexibility. In fact, he calls it the "empathy gym". It's not an actual place you can go to, but rather, it's things you can do to get a work-out for those empathy skills. That’s something we all seem to need - now more than ever. As Dr. Zaki explains to Alan Alda in this episode, we’re not stuck with the level of empathy we came in with. We can exercise it and raise it. We can use this virtual gym to improve our ability to read other people and to connect with them — which makes Dr. Zaki the perfect guest for Clear+Vivid. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid

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0:31.0	I'm Alan Alder and this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating.
0:42.0	Yeah, I was think of my parents' divorces and empathy gym for me, right?
0:47.0	It forced me to almost really as a survival skill to work at sort of connecting and reading people.
0:55.0	It was a high stakes version of empathy training.
0:59.0	And I think a lot of my work now, a lot of my life is around the mission of creating empathy
1:05.6	gyms for other people.
1:07.8	That's Dr. Jameel Zaki and yes, he did say he's creating empathy gyms.
1:13.9	Not actual places you can go to, but things you can do to get a workout through your empathy
1:19.0	skills.
1:20.0	That's something we seem to need now more than ever.
1:22.5	So when I saw his book, The War for Kindness, Building Empathy in a Fractured World and his
1:28.2	argument that we can and should exercise this ability we have to read other people and
1:33.8	to connect with them, well, I just had to invite him on the show.
1:38.6	This is so great that you can come and talk with me today.
1:41.6	You are an expert in something dear to my heart and dear to the heart of this whole podcast,
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