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The Life Scientific

James Lovelock

The Life Scientific

BBC

Technology, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Science

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2012

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Jim al-Khalili talks to James Lovelock about elocution lessons, defrosting hamsters and his grand theory of planet earth, Gaia. The idea that from the bottom of the earth's crust to the upper reaches of the atmosphere, planet earth is one giant inter-connected and self-regulating system. It's a scientific theory that's had an impact way beyond the world of science: Gaia has been embraced by poets, philosophers, spiritual leaders and green activists. Vaclav Haval called it "a moral prescription for the welfare of the planet". James Lovelock, now 92, talks about the freedom and frustrations of fifty years spent working outside the scientific establishment. Public interest in Gaia proliferated after the publication of his first book Gaia: a new look at life on earth in 1979; but the scientific community remained highly sceptical. For decades Gaia was ignored, dismissed and even ridiculed as a scientific theory. To this day, evolutionary biologists, in particular, take issue with the notion of a self-regulating planet. John Maynard Smith called it "an evil religion". Jonathon Porritt says Lovelock taught him "the value of cantankerous, obstinate independence, sticking to what you think is right and making those the cornerstones of your existence". Outspoken in support of nuclear power, Lovelock has offered to store a large amount of high level nuclear waste in a concrete box in his garden. On climate change, he believes it's too late for mankind to save the planet. At the start of his Life Scientific, Lovelock says he learnt more working as an apprentice for a photographic firm in south London than he ever did later at university. The best science, he insists, is done with your hands as well as your head. Thanks to Henry Higgins style elocution lessons aged 12, he was able to get a job at the well respected National Institute for Medical Research. Wartime science was all about solving ad -hoc problems and he loved it. A prolific inventor, he made a very early microwave oven to defrost hamsters and invented the Electron Capture Detector - an exquisitely sensitive device for detecting the presence of the tiniest quantities of gases in the atmosphere and led to a global ban on CFCs. Aged 40, Lovelock decided to go it alone and, he insists, the theory for which he is best known, Gaia, simply would not have been possible had he remained working within the scientific establishment. Producer: Anna Buckley.

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0:00.0

Once you've wrapped up this podcast, how about trying a very British cult?

0:06.0

What happens if the person you trust with your future isn't what you think they are?

0:10.0

I did feel the whole time he was watching me Yeti. I saw a footprint and that really gave me gusmas.

0:16.4

Or people who knew me. Emme, I remember every secret, every lie. I'm the only one who knows the truth.

0:23.0

Discover more of our biggest podcast from 2003.

0:27.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:30.0

Thank you for downloading The Life Scientific from BBC Radio 4.

0:36.0

After 300 yards, bare right.

0:39.0

I'm driving through these difficult Devon lanes to visit a scientist whose theory Gaea

0:45.7

has spread way beyond the world of science, to poets and philosophers, to spiritual

0:51.3

gurus and green activists.

0:54.0

The key idea is that the whole planet Earth,

0:58.0

from the bottom of its crust to the outer limits of its atmosphere,

1:01.0

including all living things, acts as one giant interconnected

1:06.2

and self-regulating system, Gaya, named after the Greek goddess of the earth. And it's here that James Lovelock has spent the past 50 years developing his Gaya theory,

1:26.0

working as an independent scientist, not affiliated to any university or research institute,

1:31.0

but rather surviving on the profits from his multiple inventions.

1:35.0

Perhaps his greatest invention was the electron capture detector,

1:39.0

an exquisitely sensitive device capable of analyzing the tiniest quantities of the

1:44.6

different gases present in our atmosphere. And I guess this was the garden where

1:50.8

he rather than digging up his rosebed actually planted a homemade bomb underneath it and blew it up.

1:57.0

Jim Lovelock, welcome to the Life Scientific or should I say thank you for inviting me.

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