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Folks, welcome to Hour 2.

I continue my conversation with our friend John Somerak.

So John, you describe in your article of the Stream.org

how it's possible for someone who once upon a time was a

conservative hero worked for the alliance defending freedom which we're talking

about on this program. He seems to have gone

over to the dark side a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, and then more and more until

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