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Welcome to the Eric Mitaxas show with your host, Eric Mitaxas.

Hey folks, I'm talking to James Howard Consler,

otherwise known as Jim. Jim, you were raised, you talk about Manhattan,

your Jewish, liberal, whatever. You drifted over time,

or I don't know, drifted or evolved, I don't know, but to my mind,

you see things pretty much as they are right now,

which makes you no longer the kind of person that Rolling Stone magazine would

dial up to be a writer for them. No, that's all changed tremendously.

But politically, I was never a lefty, really.

I had my first encounter with politics in a strange way when I was a college student.

I ran for student government president as a joke when I was a sophomore,

and I won the election. All of a sudden, I was in this position in 1968,

1969, 1968, 1969, which was the height of the Vietnam War,

and also the beginning of the hippie age going sour,

because that would be the summer of Charlie Manson,

and Elton Maltemont, and Woodstock, which was not altogether bad,

but had some elements that weren't so appetizing.

And so, hippie dumb was kind of going south, and I was tussling with student radicals,

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