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That's V-A-N-T-A-com slash G-O. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Beyond the To-Doo List.

I'm your host, Eric Fisher, and this is the show where I talk to the people behind the productivity.

This week, I'm excited to share with you a conversation I had with James Bichara.

He's got a brand new book out called Beyond Coffee, A Sustainable Guide to Neutropics, Adaptogens, and Mushrooms.

This is a very interesting topic to bring up because ultimately, it dawned on me as I was preparing for this conversation with James, that I'd never actually done a conversation on this show focused

around caffeine. It's interesting because, you know, 80% of the world is consuming caffeine every

day and it's such a tied into productivity topic, this caffeination, this overcaffeination even.

And I thought, you know, it does make sense to take a step back, take a look at this and see

what other possible sources of energy there are. And James has done a deep dive as well as with

his two co-authors to assess which ingredients are scientifically proven to be effective and safe.

So as we're all searching for the answer for optimal productivity and for many of us that's that first cup of

coffee and then continual cups of coffee throughout the day. This book and this conversation

will hopefully enlighten you to the proper amount of coffee, if any, you should be having,

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