From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Michael Lohenger.

We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds.

This week, the president mused about using U.S. forces against the enemy within.

New York Times columnist Jemel Bowie suggests it was ever thus.

If you go all the way back to a younger Donald Trump, just after the Tiananmen Square massacre,

you'll hear Trump praise the Chinese government for its handling of those protests.

Also on this week's show, what Bowie wishes the political press covered more.

Trump is not nearly as sharp as he was.

If any other political figure gave a speech like his speech in Quantico, we would

recognize it for what it was, which is someone who is in decline. Plus, the administration's deportations

and funding cuts share a common purpose. Cruelty is not the point. The goal is to silence anybody

who has a different thought. That's the point.

It's all coming up after this.

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Michael O'anger.

This week we're going to do something a little bit different. You're about to hear my

extended conversation with Jamel Bowie, a writer

I've long admired. Jamel's work in the New York Times, where he's a columnist, often takes

the long view, drawing on his deep knowledge of the highs and lows of American history,

the Constitution, the Civil War, Reconstruction, the Civil Rights era, to explain and

contextualize what we're living through right now.

In 2019, the Columbia Journalism Review called him one of the defining commentators on politics

and race in the Trump era.

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