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On today's Politics and More podcast, Jake Halpern visits VIVA, a refugee safehouse in

Buffalo, New York. VVVEA offers food, housing, legal advice, and community to refugees seeking asylum

in the U.S. or Canada.

Whatever happens with the new travel restrictions that are coming out of the White House, it's

pretty clear that the Trump administration intends to keep immigration on the front burner.

For refugees, getting asylum in the United States, which was never an easy feat before, no matter what President Trump may like to say, looks even more difficult now.

Contributor Jake Halpern has been visiting a safe house in Buffalo,

New York, where hundreds of refugees are waiting, hoping for asylum. Some are there just for a short

while, but for some, it becomes a life of limbo when they discover that they can't stay, but they can't

go home either.

How many days it take you to get from when you ran out of your house to when you arrived at Vive.

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