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🗓️ 22 April 2021
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Every Wednesday at 6 PM ET, Jen Pan, Ariella Thornhill, and Paul Prescod host a new episode of The Jacobin Show, offering socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the episode from April 21, 2021, hosted by Jen and Paul.
Historian Matt Karp joins us to discuss how and why identity politics surface during eras of extreme economic inequality in the US, and the different schools of left-wing history.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Jacobin show. I'm Jen Pan. I'm here with Paul Prescott. |
| 0:23.0 | And we will be having our friend Matt Carp on at around 6.30 p.m. ET to talk about his |
| 0:29.7 | new article in Jacobin, which is on the resurgence of partisan identity politics and other types of |
| 0:37.2 | identity politics at times of extreme economic inequality. He draws parallels between the first |
| 0:43.5 | gilded age and our current gilded age. And I think that's going to be a really great talk. |
| 0:47.7 | So definitely stay tuned. But before we get to all of that, I do want to quickly mention, |
| 0:53.7 | of course, yesterday we got the verdict back on the Derek Chauvin trial. Derek Chauvin, of |
| 0:59.4 | course, is the Minneapolis police officer who was convicted of murdering George Floyd. And, |
| 1:06.3 | you know, I just want to say to me, when the verdict came down, I was overwhelmingly relieved. I |
| 1:13.5 | thought it was a huge step forward. I probably don't have to remind, you know, very many people who |
| 1:18.7 | are watching the Jacobin channel that I think something like over 98% of police killings don't |
| 1:24.9 | result in a criminal charge, let alone a trial and conviction. So to hear that Derek Chauvin was |
| 1:30.8 | convicted on all three counts, including the most serious, which I believe was second degree |
| 1:36.3 | murder. Again, this is almost unprecedented. It's really unusual. And I definitely think that, |
| 1:44.6 | you know, those of us who are who, you know, want to stop police violence should definitely count |
| 1:51.4 | this as a win. Now, that said, you know, when I was kind of reading the coverage around the trial |
| 1:57.9 | and, you know, looking at what different people were saying yesterday, I did notice a lot of people |
| 2:04.1 | on the left saying, you know, this is not justice. Some people would say we're saying things like |
| 2:09.4 | this is accountability, but it's not fully justice. I believe Cory Bush said something which, |
| 2:14.2 | you know, along the lines of this is not justice because George Floyd is not alive. And, you know, |
| 2:19.3 | I definitely, I hear that. I think that there's a lot of truth to that. You know, one police |
| 2:25.6 | conviction alone is not going to reverse all of the police violence that we've seen thus far. |
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