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🗓️ 25 January 2021
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In this episode: John Logan on organizing at Amazon in Alabama and Veena Dubal on anti-worker Proposition 22 going national and global.
Suzi talks to John Logan, labor historian at San Francisco State, about the organizing initiative of Amazon workers in Alabama, taking on a notoriously anti-union company -- in the midst of a pandemic. The implications for this struggle are nothing less than historic, and titanic: taking on Amazon is akin to what it was to take on General Motors in the 1930s, with the same implication for capital-labor relations in contemporary capitalism. We also get John Logan’s views of President Biden’s promising labor-friendly measures and appointments.
Veena Dubal, Law Professor at UC Hastings joins us to talk about the exploitative condition of precarious platform workers, particularly in the ride-share companies. She says the passage of Prop 22 in California has emboldened these companies to go national, and is a grim precedent that poses extreme danger to workers everywhere. Veena strikes a note of hope for the new administration so far, but affirms that organizing will be the key.
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0:00.0 | This is Jacobin Radio. I'm Susie Wiseman. |
0:09.0 | Today we're going to look at the prospects and obstacles |
0:14.6 | for labor under the Biden administration which is beginning with some |
0:18.5 | promising labor-friendly measures, not a moment too soon given the extremely |
0:22.4 | difficult working conditions workers continue to face now made even tougher with the pandemic. |
0:29.0 | We begin with Labor Historian John Logan, who brings us the story of the organizing initiative of |
0:34.7 | Amazon workers in Alabama taking on the notoriously anti-union company which is the |
0:39.8 | second largest in the United States in the midst of a pandemic. |
0:43.8 | The implications for this struggle are nothing less than Titanic and will get the story. |
0:48.9 | And we then turn to law professor Vina DuBall, who's written widely on the conditions of precarious platform |
0:55.1 | workers, particularly in the ride-share companies like Uber and Lyft. |
1:00.0 | Vina DuBall has cautioned us that the passage of Prop 22 in California has embolded these companies |
1:06.5 | to go national and she cautions that Prop 22 poses extreme danger to workers everywhere and will exacerbate enormously the |
1:14.9 | inequality we're already experiencing. |
1:17.1 | Venus strikes a note of hope for the new administration so far that notes that |
1:21.7 | organizing will be the key. We'll get her take when our program returns in just a moment. This is a new administration. |
1:37.6 | This is Jacobin Radio. I'm Susie Wiseman. Well, we have a new administration, one that is beginning with some promising labor-friendly measures and not a moment too soon, |
1:45.2 | given the extremely difficult working conditions workers continue to face now made even tougher with the pandemic. |
1:51.8 | Precarious working conditions usually refer to the |
1:55.2 | instability of gig or platform work. But now with the pandemic we have widespread |
2:01.0 | unemployment and the threat of unsafe working conditions for |
2:04.4 | frontline or essential workers where the hazards of work now include not |
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