Jackie Schuld: Art therapy for late-diagnosed ADHD & autism

Women & ADHD

Katy Weber

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

4.9 • 685 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Episode 189 with Jackie Schuld.

“We need more time for things to work through our brains. Art helps with that and gives an outlet for all the intense emotions and thoughts we have.”

Jackie is an expressive arts therapist who runs a private practice specializing in late-identified Autism & ADHD. As a late-identified autistic and ADHDer herself, she loves to connect with her clients through writing, art, and conversation. She also writes and illustrates visual books, including “What is Autism,” “Grief is a Mess” and many more.

Jackie and I talk about the road to identifying as an autistic and ADHD adult, and some of the limitations to the diagnosis process. We also discuss the difficulties that many neurodivergent adults, especially women, have had with therapy in the past and some of the unique needs that neurodivergent clients bring to a therapeutic relationship.

We also talk about how and why art therapy — including writing, drawing, music, and more — can be such a valuable tool for expression and self-exploration, especially for neurodivergent clients.

Website: jackieschuld.com

Medium: @jackieschuld

Links & Resources:

Jackie's Adult Autism Resources

What is Autism by Jackie Schuld

Grief is a Mess by Jackie Schuld

Unmasking Autism by Devon Price

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