I think we needed four or five hours to deal with that topic and everything David knows on it,

it's fascinating, I hope he gets to come back at some point, but I'm just going to bring you

now our next guest, Sarah, welcome to Outwood Unleashed, how are you? Thank you, I'm very well,

thank you, and thank you so much for inviting me on. It's our pleasure, I've read your

wonderful book and it was great for me because I have to admit, I knew absolutely nothing about

the white chapel murders or the ripper outside of popular culture tropes and things like that,

so it was great to get a good deep dive and I had no idea how horrific it was as well,

it probably sounds a bit daft to say, so maybe you could just start by telling us your personal

connection to this world-famous story, it's almost mythological trappings, hasn't it?

Yes, my book, One-armed Jack, is a non-fiction re-examination of the Jack the Ripper case

and it proposes a new prime suspect, Hyam Hyams, and East End Cigar Maker,

and my introduction to the case came about because I discovered in early 2017 that I had a

police ancestor, Harry Garrett, who worked on the case, and this just came about through family

history research, which was started by my late father and which I took on after his death,

and when I found Harry had been transferred into white chapel on promotion to Sargent

in January 1888, and the ripper murders kicked off in August of that year,

I was so intrigued that I thought I would find out more about the case myself, and as you say,

we all feel that we know something about the Jack the Ripper case, but in fact,

it was a series of five or in my analysis six murders in quite a compressed time frame between

August and November 1888, and with a lot of complexity about the victims, the circumstances

of the murders, the locations, and in my book I do a true crime reconstruction for each of the

murders, and I actually follow the killer's escape route home.

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