Jack Avery Talks Fatherhood, Why Don't We Lawsuit, Anxiety, and New Song "Aphrodite"

Zach Sang Show

Sangasong, LLC

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4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Former Why Don’t We member Jack Avery joins us solo on the sofa for the first time. It’s been a minute since we’ve heard from him and by all accounts — his own — he’s really been through it. From struggling to find loyal collaborators post-WDW, to suffering debilitating anxiety attacks, to financial struggles, to finding out his life might be in danger, to co-parenting his six-year-old daughter with his ex, Avery has been dealing with a lot.

He’s gone from being one of the most reticent interviewees (as part of WDW) to being refreshingly candid about the tough stuff. Newly inspired and diving into his R&B bag (and working with Rodney ‘Darkchild’ Jerkins!), his new tracks — ‘APHRODITE,’ ‘PLEASE DON’T GO’ and ‘IF YOU DON’T SHE WILL,’ the latter of which was inspired by his girlfriend and which he performs acoustically for the first time on the couch. Don’t miss this one.

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0:00.0	Oh, hello.
0:10.3	Beautiful human, happy day to you.
0:11.4	And to those you love, halfway through the week.
0:12.9	The Zach Sanger show is here.
0:14.6	Oh, that's Zach Sanger show.
0:15.8	You just got your own name wrong?
0:17.1	Yeah.
0:18.6	I'm fried, dude.
0:19.8	I'm totally cooked, Dan.
0:22.6	I'm totally cooked. I've been cooked for a long time.
0:30.4	But I'm like living with the implications, the ramifications, the everyday struggle of being cooked.
0:31.1	What's cooked you?
0:35.2	So many things. Experience, life, history, the people.
0:37.0	History. History cooked you? I mean, yes, we don't listen to it or follow history at all to the point that we get sucked into it and we're in a terrible place in the present and paving a terrible path forward for tomorrow. It's bad. Well, that is a downer. Yeah, but today's my birthday. That's right. Happy birthday, Allie Gold.
0:55.3	Big happy birthday to Allie Gold.
0:57.1	And to anybody else who's birthday, it may be, but it is your special day.
0:59.8	Well, it's not really because it's a very popular birthday.
1:03.1	And I actually shared it with about seven people from my class growing up.
1:07.8	There is something, I think in general, September is like a popular month, but my year in
1:12.4	particular, 1993, there was like a hurricane or something, and it caused women to go
1:17.4	into labor.
1:18.6	And I literally was like, had to be born half in the elevator.
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