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🗓️ 16 September 2024
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Jack Abramoff has schemed his way to the top of right-wing politics, skimming off the top of every lobbying deal he makes. But when burned clients expose his scam to Congress, Jack is forced to answer to elected officials who have actually stuck to their convictions. He still considers himself a hero, even as his circle of DC power players gets taken down. And even a stint behind bars can’t stop Jack’s impulsive need to lie, cheat, and steal, even as he tries to stage a comeback tour.
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0:07.4 | Sarah, what do you remember about our scammer from the first part of our series? |
0:17.0 | You mean Jack Antonov? That was his name or something? |
0:21.0 | No, not quite. His name was Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist, although Jack Antinoff, the singer, could be a |
0:27.4 | scammer depending on how you feel about bleachers. But what do you |
0:31.2 | remember? I just remember a lot of terrible things that this guy basically was like I have to go as hard as possible and try and scam as much money to fund various terrible groups and beliefs. |
0:46.7 | Okay, that was a pretty good recap, thank you. |
0:49.2 | Today we're going to find out what happens to our beloved hero. And by beloved hero, I mean huge scam artist. |
0:58.0 | It's January 2003 and Tom Rogers is at home in Washington, D.C. |
1:02.0 | It's late at night and he's relaxing and watching football on TV. Tom Rogers is at home in Washington, D.C. |
1:02.6 | It's late at night and he's relaxing and watching football on television. |
1:06.4 | Tom is in his early 40s with graying hair, high chiefbones and green eyes. |
1:11.4 | The phone rings, and the person on the other end of the line says, |
1:14.0 | Tom I was told I could trust you. Tom works as a lobbyist but this call is straight out of a spy |
1:20.0 | novel. The guy introduces himself as the sub-chief of the Saginaw Chippewa, an indigenous tribe in |
1:25.4 | Michigan. |
1:26.4 | He tells Tom that he recently tried to ask some questions about money his tribe was paying |
1:29.9 | to a high-powered lobbyist named Jack Abramoff. |
1:33.5 | Jack responded by threatening to sue him and the tribe. |
1:36.6 | Tom isn't surprised. |
1:38.0 | Jack is a heavy hitter in DC, |
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