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Woman's Hour

Jacinda Ardern, Women leaving teaching, Abuse in sport

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

When Jacinda Ardern became Prime Minister in 2017 at the age of 37, she was the youngest female head of government in the world. She also made history as only the second elected leader to give birth while in office. She resigned in 2023 after more than five years in post saying she no longer had enough in the tank and, since then, has engaged in global work focused on empathy in leadership and the prevention of online extremism. As a new documentary film, Prime Minister, comes out out in cinemas, Jacinda tells Kylie Pentelow about the highs and lows of trying to lead with empathy.

We examine new data that reveals the number of teachers leaving the profession after becoming parents. We’ll ask why, and what’s being done about it. Emma Shepherd is the founder of the Maternity Teacher Paternity Teacher Project and Branwen Jeffries is the BBC's Education Editor.

British Olympic and Paralympic athletes are being offered a new form of artificial intelligence-based protection from online abuse for the first time. UK Sport has signed a contract worth more than £300,000 to allow thousands of athlete's access to an app which detects and hides abusive posts sent by other users on social media. BBC Sport Correspondent Natalie Pirks and Olympic badminton player Kirsty Gilmour discuss.

Health Secretary Wes Streeting has announced he is launching an independent review into rising demand for mental health, ADHD, and autism services in England. Women's historic underdiagnosis has started to improve in recent years. What role might this play in the increase that the government now plan to examine? We hear from Dr Jessica Agnew-Blais - senior lecturer in psychology at Queen Mary's University in London who researches girls and women with ADHD.

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The only thing left to do now is Ron.

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Hello, this is Kylie Pentelow and you're listening to The Woman's Hour podcast.

0:42.6

Hello and welcome to the programme. Thanks for your company this morning.

0:46.5

Now today we'll hear from Jacinda Ardairn, the former Prime Minister of New Zealand.

0:51.1

There's a new documentary about her time in office which covers the defining

0:54.8

moments of her premiership, but is also an intimate look at her life during that time, including

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how she found out she was pregnant just days before she became Prime Minister. Also, we know

1:06.8

how widespread it is for high-profile women, particularly those involved in the sports

1:11.7

profession, to receive abuse on social media. Well, today it's been announced there's a new

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