ITT-AnthroPod Crossover: (W)rap on Immigration

In The Thick

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News, Culture, Society, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Politics

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🗓️ 22 January 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this special crossover episode with AnthroPod, Julio moderates a conversation with anthropologist Jason De León and Maria about migration, writing, and teaching. “(W)Rap on: Immigration” is the second episode of the (W)Rap On series at AnthroPod, which brings anthropologists into conversation with artists, activists, and scholars from other disciplines and perspectives. The series is loosely inspired by James Baldwin and Margaret Mead’s 1970 conversation Rap on Race, and was conceived by Hilary Leathem in collaboration with AnthroPod. AnthroPod's format attempts to identify and confront some of the problems that Mead and Baldwin’s conversation embodied, such as white fragility, complicity with power structures, and the struggle to create space for different groups to speak openly. You can find the original episode here, and subscribe to AnthroPod wherever you get your podcasts. Special thanks to AnthroPod and producer/editor, Arielle Milkman. AnthroPod's Staff Picks:

Five Things You Should Know About the “Migrant Caravan" from the American Anthropological Association blog
"The Deportation Terror:" a historical look at deportation, from American Quarterly.
Evidencing Violence and Care along the Central American Migrant Trail through Mexico by the Social Science Review. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0	Hey, welcome to In The Thick. This is a podcast about politics, race, and culture from a POC perspective.
0:07.0	I'm Marianne Nohosa. Special shout out to everyone who is able to have a day off to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr. We shut down the office to
0:16.5	commemorate Martin Luther King Junior Day and as a result we're bringing you an episode that is a crossover episode with another
0:24.4	podcast that's called Anthropod. Now this is a conversation with Jason de Leon
0:29.5	that my dear ITT co-host Julio Julio Ricardo de Varela, facilitated.
0:34.4	It's about the border and the long history of U.S. involvement in Central America, and it really
0:39.2	makes a lot of important connections to what's happening right now today.
0:44.0	So a little bit of background about Jason Delión, if you don't know him,
0:48.0	you're going to really enjoy getting to know his work.
0:51.0	He's a MacArthur genius.
0:52.0	He's an anthropologist. People know his work because he's documented people who have been crossing the border and kind of the human toll of this. He's collected thousands of objects that migrants have left behind and kind of what that means and
1:07.8	He has searched and studied the remains of many of the people who couldn't make it through the desert. It's just
1:13.6	really really powerful. It's happening as we speak. And a special shout out and
1:19.0	thank you to Ariel Milkman, Jason Delleone, and Anthropod for this crossover collaboration.
1:25.1	Anthropod Podcast is produced by the Society for Cultural Anthropology and in each
1:30.2	episode they explore what anthropologists and anthropology can teach us about the world
1:35.4	and the people around us. And once I wanted to be an anthropologist so I kind of love this stuff.
1:41.5	All right, take a listen and enjoy.
1:44.0	Hey there, I'm Ariel Milkman, one of the contributing editors at Anthropopod.
1:52.0	Welcome to the Rap on Immigration with Jason de Leon and Maria Inahosa.
1:57.0	The Rap On series is inspired by the 1970 conversation
2:01.0	between writer James Baldwin and anthropologist Margaret Meade.
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