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Italian happiness trains

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Between 1945 and 1952, ‘happiness trains’ transported 70,000 children from southern to northern Italy to live with wealthier families.

It was a scheme organised by the Union of Italian Women and the Italian Communist Party in an attempt to make the lives of southern Italian children better.

Ten-year-old Bianca D’Aniello was one of the passengers to travel from Salerno in the south to Mestre in the north where she was looked after by a family with more resources.

Bianca’s life in Mestre was miserable because of Italy’s fascist regime and the devastation her city faced in the wake of World War Two. Her journey was nerve-racking as she jumped on a train for the first time saying goodbye to her mum and siblings. What she didn’t realise was what life had in store for her in her new life.

Bianca speaks to Natasha Fernandes about how that ‘happiness train’ changed her life forever.

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(Photo: Children on board an Italian 'happiness train' kiss and wave goodbye to their parents. Credit: Instituto Storico Modena)

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Hello, this is the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Natasha Fernandez, part of the witness history team. We're the podcast that takes you back to a key

0:48.1

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1:05.1

For the amazing story I've got for you today, we're going back to the southern Italian

1:09.1

streets of Salerno in 1947, when

1:12.1

hundreds of children boarded the Trenno della Felicita, or happiness train, waving goodbye to their

1:17.5

parents.

1:22.5

I thought the train didn't exist. I've never seen them before. Our faces were black because we like to open the windows. But suit came into the carriage from the train combustions. That's Bianca Danielo, recalling the moment when at 10 years old, she took a train for the first time, destination unknown.

1:49.2

Eight years before, World War II had broken out,

1:52.9

and in 1943, Bianca's hometown was targeted.

1:55.6

Within a week of the initial Allied invasion of Italy,

1:59.8

General Eisenhower extended his operations to points along the western seaboard.

2:01.5

One place to assume critical importance was Salerno. Lying offshore, the great armament of battleships and cruisers bombarded

2:06.7

the enemy positions.

2:12.5

Memories of misery and dirt, we didn't have water. There wasn't even water to drink, let alone to wash with.

2:21.2

In every family there was nothing to eat. I was almost dying. My lungs got sick because we didn't

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eat. There was nothing. And children were falling ill with tuberculosis.

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