'It's Like a War.' Revisiting Dr. Fabiano Di Marco.

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🗓️ 14 July 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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For the remainder of this week, “The Daily” is revisiting episodes with people we met in the early weeks of the coronavirus pandemic to hear what has happened to them since our original conversations were first aired. Italy was an early epicenter of the pandemic in Europe. In March, we spoke to a doctor who was triaging patients north of Milan about the road that might lie ahead for the United States. Today, we call him again to hear what it was like to discharge his last coronavirus patient while the American caseload soars. Guest: Dr. Fabiano Di Marco, a professor at the University of Milan and the head of the respiratory unit of the Hospital Papa Giovanni XXIII in Bergamo. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Background reading: Italy was one of the first countries in Europe to institute a nationwide lockdown and, later, to choose a cautious approach to reopening public spaces. Here is a comparison of how successful other countries have been in their subsequent responses to the pandemic.

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Michael. For the rest of the week, we're revisiting people we met in the early weeks of the pandemic,
0:06.7	listening back and hearing what's happened to them since our original conversations first ran.
0:13.1	Today, Dr. Fabiano Dammarco of Bergamo, Italy. It's Tuesday, July 14th.
0:20.9	Can you see me? No, I think. I cannot see you, but I can hear you and I think I can hear you.
0:32.2	Oh, now I can see you. Sorry for my English. I don't know if my English will be adequate for a podcast,
0:42.3	but then you will decide. It's exceptional and I'm really grateful that you're making time for us.
0:49.2	Thank you. Thank you. So, where are you right now? In now, I'm at home after three weeks. Today,
0:58.0	in the afternoon, I met home because I had a big family with three children and I decided to come back
1:05.4	at home one day. So, you have not been home in three weeks? Three weeks, yes. I've been in my hospital
1:13.0	every day. I started the crisis. Friday, the 21st of February and since then, it was a total mess.
1:24.6	It's like a war.
1:33.2	From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro. This is the Daily. This is how Italy's cases have
1:39.6	grown after the last month, slowly at first, but now more rapidly. It's a textbook epidemic curve.
1:47.1	Italy has quickly become the new epicenter of the pandemic, with nearly 30,000 infections
1:54.8	and more than 2,000 deaths, numbers that are soaring by the day, even after the government there,
2:02.4	took extreme measures to lock down much of the country.
2:06.4	Correct. We are at a critical inflection point in this country.
2:09.9	On Monday, the US Surgeon General warned that the United States is now on a strikingly similar path.
2:17.7	People, we are where Italy was two weeks ago in terms of our numbers and we have a choice to
2:23.7	make as a nation. Do we want to go the direction of South Korea and really be aggressive in lower
2:29.6	or mortality rates or do we want to go the direction of Italy? Today, a conversation with a doctor
2:36.7	in Bergamo, north of Milan, one of Italy's hardest hit areas.
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