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Dressed: The History of Fashion

"It's Got Pockets!": Gender and Pocket Parity, an interview with Dr. Hannah Carlson

Dressed: The History of Fashion

Dressed Media

History, Society & Culture, Fashion & Beauty, Arts

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week we address our most requested topic of all time: 'why do women's garments have fewer pockets?!' Dr. Hannah Carlson joins us to discuss her recently released book Pockets: An Intimate History of How We Keep Things Close. RECOMMENDED READING: Carlson, Hannah. An Intimate History of How We Keep Things Close. New York: Algonquin Books, 2023. You can find Dr. Carlson's book and many more of our favorite fashion history books on our online bookshelf! Keep abreast of our latest trips and tours at www.dressedhistory.com. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/dressed-the-history-of-fashion/donations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Dress, the history of fashion, is a production of Dressed Media.

0:24.0

With over 8 billion people in the world, we all have one thing in common.

0:28.0

Today, we all get dressed.

0:30.0

Welcome to Trust, the history of fashion.

0:33.0

A podcast where we explore the who, what, when, of why we wear.

0:37.0

We are fashion historians and your hosts, Cassidy Zachary.

0:41.0

And April Callahan.

0:43.0

Dress listeners, I'm not even a seasonal cold.

0:47.0

And the fact that I'm desperately fighting for you all to not lose my voice this week.

0:54.0

Can stop us from bringing you another episode on what has to be our most requested topic of all time.

1:03.0

Oh, yeah.

1:04.0

And you know, Cass, the show must go on.

1:06.0

And the irony of the fact that while I was working on this episode the last few days,

1:12.0

I did not have somewhere on my person to stash cough drops or a Kleenex.

1:17.0

Well, this irony did not escape me.

1:20.0

For a couple days in a row now, the outfits that I have happened to have been wearing did not have pockets.

1:25.0

And this is of course a common frustration shared by millions of us who wear women's clothing today.

1:31.0

Oh, yeah.

1:32.0

And not entirely a problem exclusive to modernity as we will find out in this episode.

1:37.0

For centuries, garments gendered for women have proportionately had far less pockets than those intended for their male counterparts.

1:45.0

And as the architect Bernard Rudolfski pointed out in the Museum of Modern Arts first ever exhibition to probe the topic of clothing.

1:53.0

And that was called our close modern.

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