Hey everyone, it's Reid. Before we get started, just want to make sure that you're following along with the Lincoln project on all of our coverage regarding the January 6th Committee hearings.

Testimony has been explosive. The evidence has been damning against Donald Trump and his attempt to steal the 2020 election.

I hope you'll follow us and understand just how close we were to losing it all. And now on with the show.

Welcome back to the Lincoln project. I'm your host, Reid Gailan. Today, I'm excited to be joined by Hugo Lle, Congressional reporter for the Guardian US covering the January 6th Committee.

In addition to his work with the Guardian, Breaking Scoop after Scoop after Scoop, Hugo also regularly appears as a political analyst for MSNBC, Peacock, and a variety of other outlets.

He's coming to us today from Washington, DC. Hugo, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

So Hugo, you've been on the front lines covering the Select Committee on January 6th and its public hearings of the last five or six weeks.

So I want to take a chance to recap for our listeners what we've seen so far from the first one, you know, back at the beginning of June, up until now.

So what have you seen?

Look, I mean, these hearings are primarily for the public. It's not for reporters like me who have been kind of covering this for 11 months.

It's to tell a story and it's to tell a story and as compelling and as understandable away as possible for someone who doesn't follow politics.

And to that end, I think they've been really successful.

I mean, it's a really complicated narrative and they've managed to distill it down into this multi-pronged effort by Trump to overturn the election.

And at the very end, what's the capital attack? It was just one of several kind of schemes he had to try and return himself to the Oval Office.

And telling that story is difficult and it's complicated and I think they've done a really good job of that.

And in doing so, they've still been able to tease out new information that even the reporters covering it didn't know.

And I think the justice department didn't know. And that includes stuff like public amendment of Congress seeking pardoned John Eastman seeking pardons, Rudy Giuliani seeking pardons.

And then Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony, which was explosive in so many different ways, including for the fact that she revealed that Trump tried to open a channel of communication to people like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.

Who had direct ties to the militia groups that's the only capital.

You know, you said something interesting there and I think that this too often goes both unnoticed and unremarked upon, which was January 6th was sort of like his last shot, right?

It was his last biggest opportunity when I say him Trump's biggest opportunity to find a way to stay in power.

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