It's a Numbers Game: The Numbers Behind Diversity in Medicine with Heather Mac Donald
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
iHeartPodcasts
4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:06.7 | Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gurdowski. |
| 0:09.3 | Happy Monday, everyone. |
| 0:10.9 | I hope you all enjoy the last week's of the podcast on immigration. |
| 0:15.2 | Jeffrey Epstein, it's definitely been very interesting doing podcasting about politics and elections during a non-election season in the |
| 0:23.6 | middle of the summer. There's only so many polls about New York City that I could do regularly |
| 0:28.1 | to keep your interest. So I'm trying to get the, expand the conversation until we dig deep |
| 0:34.9 | into election season, which is coming up faster than you'd expect. |
| 0:38.9 | We're headed towards the end of July, and in the final stretch of the summer, I think a lot of |
| 0:43.0 | people are looking at what their summer goals were. Mine was to catch up my summer reading. |
| 0:47.5 | And a lot of times people send me books for free from publishers. So I would, you know, |
| 0:52.6 | they talk about them on my substack or my Twitter or write about them |
| 0:55.9 | or have my podcast. |
| 0:57.3 | We're headed to the end of July in the final stretch to achieve your summer goals. |
| 1:01.1 | I'm trying to catch my summer reading. |
| 1:02.7 | A lot of times publishers will send me free books to promote on either the podcast or my |
| 1:08.4 | substack or my social media. |
| 1:10.6 | And I spent way too much time reading |
| 1:12.7 | this book called Demon Copperhead this year. It was very, very good, but it could have been |
| 1:18.6 | cut by 150 pages at least. It was very repetitive towards the end. I'm like, I don't need this. |
| 1:24.5 | And then I received a book called Class Matters. Now, I only read parts of it because I rejected the premise entirely, but it was a book about how higher education should weigh economic class over race as a part of the admissions process. The author laments how some schools should take in the top 10% of all high school graduating students, regardless of economic status, |
| 1:45.2 | and that would level the playing field for people who aren't financially off. |
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