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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

It's a Numbers Game: Data Centers, China & AI: What They’re Not Telling You

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics, News Commentary

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Are AI data centers the future of America—or another taxpayer-funded experiment? Ryan Girdusky breaks down the growing backlash over AI infrastructure, Kevin O’Leary’s comments on China and data centers, and why communities nationwide are pushing back. Plus, California gubernatorial candidate Chad Bianco joins the show to discuss housing, immigration, crime, energy costs, and California’s future.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.9

Happy Monday, everyone.

0:06.2

Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gurdowski.

0:08.5

Thank you guys for being here.

0:09.6

We have a very exciting episode today.

0:11.7

Chad Bianco, candidate for governor of California is here.

0:15.3

It's going to be a very exciting conversation.

0:17.4

He's really in the mix of things for this election.

0:20.6

And you never know what can happen. So he'll talk about policies. I'll really in the mix of things for this election and you never know what can happen.

0:22.7

So he'll talk about policies. He'll talk about the election. I'll talk about why he's feuding with

0:26.9

fellow Republican Steve Hilton. What do you think of some of the Democrats and what his hopes are for

0:30.5

California? So that's coming up later. But first, let's talk about data centers. It's a big

0:37.2

topic of conversation.

0:38.6

Last week on his episode, on his podcast, rather, on Tucker Carlson had on Kevin O'Leary,

0:44.7

a Canadian billionaire from Shark Tank trying to build the largest data center in the country

0:50.0

in Box Elder Utah.

0:52.0

It is a 62 square mile data center site that is twice the size of the

0:59.0

island of Manhattan. The facility will be a nine gigawatt, will require about nine gigawatts

1:05.5

of power, which is more than the entire state of Utah currently consumes and suck up a significant amount of water in the area,

1:13.5

which has had severe droughts in many recent years.

1:16.5

Residents of Utah are not happy about this data center

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