Well, I, you know, I was asked by a fellow at the

I think it's University of Michigan who's doing a dissertation on race and

American politics and a prominent writer for National Review said you should

talk to Michael Barry. He's the only guy that can talk about Republicans and

how they deal with race and how they struggle with it. And I think he'll be

an interesting guest. So I think the guy was surprised by some of what I had to

say. And the problem is I don't really care what anybody's opinion on race is. If

I think they're being honest, what I don't have patience for is when people will

say things because they think it makes them look good. And when people are so

afraid of being called a racist, that they make statements designed in their

mind to leave the listener going, Oh, that's really good. He's not a racist. He is

against affirmative action. He is against welfare. He doesn't think Barack

Obama was a good president, but he liked that black Republican guy. So he's not

a racist. And you see this every day, people, I don't even think they realize they're

doing it. I give you an example. So Tim Scott, for years, people have said to me,

Michael, Tim Scott, Tim Scott. Okay, what about Tim? He's man. I really like him. First

of all, people don't tell me that they really, really like someone. I really, really like

it. Right? They'll just, they might vote for somebody, but they don't tell me how

much they love that God. They'll do that with Donald Trump. And I think the reasons for

that are obvious. So why this one senator, what is it about Tim Scott? And so I will ask,

what is it about Tim Scott that you really like? Man, if you heard him, whoa, man,

some of the things he says, okay, give me an example. Just, I mean, he is, he's bold,

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