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Israel vs. Iran: what next? | Professor of War Studies, Lawrence Freedman, on the Isreal-Iran conflict.

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Is there a route to de-escalation between Israel and Iran?


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On Friday, the 13th of June, Israel launched a surprise attack on multiple targets across Iran. Israel strikes hit missile sites and nuclear facilities, and more recently also targeted Iranian state tv. 


The two nations have subsequently traded missile attacks over the following days, an escalation to the conflict, which is now the biggest between these two longstanding adversaries.


New Statesman editor Tom McTague meets Lawrence Freedman, Professor Emeritus of War Studies at King's College London, to discuss the conflict between Israel and Iran.


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Last week on Friday the 13th of June, Israel launched a surprise attack on multiple targets across Iran.

1:16.2

Israel's strikes hit missile sites and nuclear facilities and yesterday also targeted Iranian state TV.

1:25.3

The terrified anchor running for cover as smoke and debris filled the studio.

1:30.7

Justifying the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed he was acting to halt Iran's progress towards building a nuclear bomb.

1:38.8

Israel will never allow those who call for our annihilation to develop the means to achieve that goal.

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The two nations have subsequently traded missile attacks over the following days,

1:49.8

an escalation to the conflict which is now the biggest between these two long-standing

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