This is a CBS I on the World with John Bachelor.

Here's John Bachelor.

I welcome Ord Kitchery, Senior Fellow Foundation for the Defensive Democracy.

Also, very importantly, a law professor at Arizona State University,

tell me to understand the South African aggression towards the state of

Israel to do with the conduct of the IDF in the Gaza conflict underway right now.

If I understand correctly, next week is an important date to watch when Israel will bring forth

a response to the allegations brought by South Africa.

However, South Africa itself is a troubled nation, and it is not clear at all what gain a South Africa for itself on the basis of these smear tactics.

Or at a very good evening to you, the allegation of genocide by South Africa at the International Court of Justice.

That has reverberated for weeks and it wasn't until I read your column in the Wall Street Journal that I saw there was some pattern here.

What is in it for South Africa?

Do we understand the motivation of driving this fiction?

Good evening to you. Good evening to you.

Good evening, it's a pleasure to be here. So it's clear that South Africa is not really

concerned about issues of genocide because South Africa has been

cooperating with Russia's military which is obviously trying to wipe out

Ukraine and South Africa recently hosted the head of the Janjaweed

militia who has been accused by the International Criminal Court of Genocide

in Sudan and South Africa has also

hosted the leadership of Hamas which clearly engaged in genocide against Israel and whose charter is

genocidal. It calls for killing Jews wherever they may be. So that that doesn't

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