Israel and Palestine: A Jewish Perspective with Daniel Finkelstein
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🗓️ 21 May 2021
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
As part of our season of programmes looking at the Arab-Israeli conflict Lord Daniel Finklestein joins the podcast to discuss his perspective as a member of the Jewish diaspora. Daniel is a journalist and member of the House of Lords and in this episode, he shares with Dan his family's history before, during and after the holocaust and why this dark period of history is so important in shaping the current situation in Israel.
Listen to the previous episode in our series of programmes about the Israel-Palestine conflict: Israel and Palestine: A Palestinian View
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everybody, welcome to History Hip. The violence continues in Israel Palestine and as promised, |
| 0:08.0 | his part two of our season, looking at the history of Arab-Israeli conflict. Coming up next |
| 0:14.0 | week, we'll have an interview with an Israeli history professor, but today I'm talking to |
| 0:17.8 | a member of the Jewish diaspora. Lord Daniel Finkelstein is a journalist in the UK. He's |
| 0:25.7 | a member of the Upper House of Parliament, the House of Lords. He's a very prominent British Jew |
| 0:30.5 | and he's been on the podcast before talking about his remarkable family story before the Second |
| 0:37.1 | World War during the Holocaust and since. In the sense he reflects as a Jew, as a believer in Israel |
| 0:46.0 | on what's going on at the moment and how we go here. If you wish to listen to Lord Finkelstein's |
| 0:52.4 | previous podcast, you can do so at historyhit.tv. We've got new history channel folks, |
| 0:58.6 | hundreds of hours on history documentaries, all the backup episodes of this pod. They're all |
| 1:03.7 | available there. HistoryHit.tv, please go and check it out. In the meantime, enjoy this episode |
| 1:10.9 | with Daniel Finkelstein. Daniel, what is your relationship with Israel and Zionism as a British Jew? |
| 1:24.7 | Well, I've been researching quite a bit of my family history and it's very interesting to learn |
| 1:29.4 | a bit more about attitudes to Israel before it existed and before the Second World War. |
| 1:34.4 | Both my grandfather's and my grandmother's had a view that is understandable in that period. |
| 1:43.1 | It probably doesn't exist in quite the same way in Jewish affairs and Israeli affairs now. |
| 1:49.7 | There were really three strands of opinion on the creation of Israel in the 1920s and 30s. |
| 1:56.7 | There were those people who said the Russian pogroms, the Lviv pogroms, the experience of Jews |
| 2:03.9 | across Europe and in the Middle East means that we have to create a Jewish state. |
| 2:10.5 | Theodore Herzl had come up with this idea having seen the degradation of Dreyfus and been |
| 2:15.7 | much influenced by that. That was one strand of opinion but probably not the strongest. It was |
| 2:22.5 | that Judaism is an ethnic identity and it will never be safe in these countries which in the case |
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