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Welcome to Navaralive. I'm Helena, aka No Justice MTG, and tonight I am delighted to be joined by Kieran and Dreu.

Kieran, first question, what was it like when you first stepped off the boat and realized you were under the hands of a genocidal military?

It was a jumble of emotions that were pretty difficult to process at that exact moment,

and I'm still processing them now, but it was, I suppose, pretty scary, you could say. I think the

moment when we realized that shit had hit the fan and that the light interception, so-called,

despite it being an illegal kidnapping

in international waters, was actually, in many ways, a ploy to lull us into a false sense of

security was exactly that moment when we got to the port of Ashdod.

And I saw 300 or so flotilla comrades lined up with their hands bound behind their backs

face down, face down at the tarmac, and then I was grabbed by the scruff of my neck and

thrown down on the floor. So I suppose you could say it was pretty scary, it was pretty intimidating,

and that was not by accident. You are certainly a braver comrade than I.

Now, make sure that you stick with us tonight because at the end of the show, Kieran

will be answering your questions about the flotilla, as well as his experience at the hands

of his Israeli captors.

You can put those questions in the chat throughout the show, or put them to Kieran later on.

Before that, though, Rachel Reeves is under pressure to raise income tax in the upcoming autumn

budget, and Paul Holden defense is damning expose of Kier Stahmer's Labour on Politics Live.

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