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I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday roundup.

This week, ministers debate the water industry and how to fix it,

along with some differing opinions on the future of energy.

The government has announced plans to halve sewage pollution from water companies by 2030

with the help of £104 billion of private investment.

On the BBC this morning, Laura Coonsberg interviewed Environment Secretary Steve Reid,

who said the government was drawing a line under the failures of the past.

This target, what is actually new about it, because as Joe Tano just suggested, actually,

does it mean that people are going to have to put up with half the levels of sewage in their water

that they've had for the last few years? We've looked at the numbers. If you have it,

you only go back to 2019 when there were still 225,000 sewage spills.

Well, I'm able to make that commitment to halve sewage pollution from water companies within

five years because of that set of actions that we've taken, because of those building blocks.

That isn't the end of our ambition, of course. Over a decade of national

renewal, we need to restore all of our rivers, lakes and seas to good health. But if you remember,

up until this year, sewage pollution has got worse every single year. This is the line that we're

now drawing. We turn this situation around and over the next five years

we reduce that type of sewage pollution from water companies by 50% at least and then we go on,

of course there will be an election in between if we're re-elected to restore all of our rivers

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