Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shops, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isba Hardman and this is the Sunday Roundup.

Thursday's local elections were bruising for both main parties and a huge success for

Reform UK, who won 677 seats. On Sky News this morning, West Streeting admitted that reform

could become Labour's main challenges. Let's talk about the people who, I think pretty much

everybody recognises came out of Thursday

very well, which is reform. And you've just raised the issue of immigration. He, of course,

ran very heavily on government's record on immigration. He also ran on net zero. He's been

beating you up. He apparently was agreed with by Tony Blair, who, you know, we can argue about

what Tony Blair said, but he basically said that the aim of net zero by 2050 is unrealistic.

Farage called for Scunthorke to be nationalised. You didn't.

Is there a real problem for Labour that actually reform is really eating into your traditional

working class base? I think reform is definitely a real threat

and one that we take seriously.

I think there's clearly on the right of British politics

a realignment taking place.

It's not yet clear whether at the next general election

it will be reform or the conservatives

that are Labor's main challenges.

But we've got to take that threat seriously.

And in that spirit, I think reform does deserve more airtime and scrutiny of their policies.

Because you mentioned the issues that Nigel Farage wanted to fight the local elections on.

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