Gide, humans.

Welcome to the show that goes where other shows dare not tread.

The show that rejects partisanship and tribalism.

I'm Josh Zeps, your humble interrogator, your humble interlocutor, and each week I hunt down the world's most interesting people to wrestle with questions that normally get

everyone in a huff. Because so much of modern culture and politics and media, especially social

media, panders to what you already believe and distorts what you don't already believe. It reinforces

what you're comfortable thinking about. This is not the show

for that. We know that change doesn't happen inside echo chambers, so step out of the comfort zone,

flex your mind, tread on some landmines, and have some uncomfortable conversations.

Today on the show, a fabulous, fiery gal.

Anna Marie Cox, American author, blogger, political columnist, critic. She founded the groundbreaking political blog, Wonkett, which was a kind of a cheeky, smart-assy feminist, very inside the Beltway,

story-breaking, muck-raking political blog that shot to, I suppose, national prominence with a few scandals that it was able to break

in the early 2010s.

And she became a fixture of Washington, D.C., very much a bad girl insider.

She became the senior political correspondent for MTV News.

She had a column in the New York Times magazine where she did

interviews, well, an interview piece. She was the Washington correspondent for GQ magazine,

a contributor for The Daily Beast. I mean, all of the, you know, very, very, very establishment

American political media institutions. She was a lead blogger on US politics for

The Guardian and an editor at Mother Jones. And then she kind of pretty much turned her back on

it all and thought it was all a bit of a joke. She got sober, started thinking about what really

matters, had been an early adopter of

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