from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, June 9th.

And with what's going on in L.A. right now, let's go all the way there with the ultimate authoritarian nightmare scenario

that many Democrats and some other people are articulating. It's that the mass deportation,

workplace, raid, and then deployment by President Trump of the National Guard is really about

this, as articulated on NPR yesterday by California Congresswoman

Maxine Waters.

Trump hates us.

He hates sanctuary city.

He's going to try and make an example out of us.

And this is how he's going to get to have martial law because he wants to go to us into a fight.

Marshall Law. So is the Trump administration acting consistent with the Constitution,

at least so far? And would anything allow him to declare martial law in a constitutional sense?

Joining us now is Leah Littman, professor of law at the University of Michigan, a former Supreme Court clerk, co-host of the podcast, Strict Scrutiny, and author of the new book Lawless, How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vives.

Professor Littman, thanks for coming on for this on short notice with the breaking

news. Welcome back to WNYC. Thanks for having me. So let me start here. They had warrants for the

raids on workplaces on Friday from what I read. The workplace raids that triggered the

protests. They arrested more than 100 people. Did the warrants at least make it legal to just burst into

workplaces where there was no disturbance or to pull out workers who were not suspected of anything

other than their immigration status? So without having seen the warrants, it's a little bit

difficult to know. Sometimes warrants might authorize immigration officers or federal officers

to detain or arrest other people on the

premises or they might be defined in such a way as to allow them to detain only a certain

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