I'm Dave Rubin and we are at the local studio here in Miami and I am joined by Stephen Blackwood,

the co-founder and president of Ralston College in Savannah, Georgia.

Stephen, we're almost dressed exactly the same.

It's nice to see you.

Good to be here.

Thank you.

So we did, we've only done one show together in my many, many years of interviewing people.

So I want to talk about Ralston College, a place of actual learning from what I understand

and Jordan Peterson's intimately involved in what you guys are doing.

So I know this will be interesting to my audience.

So first off, give me a one minute bio on you, how you ended up starting this place and

then we'll talk about what's going on over there.

Gosh, well, in some sense I'm just a farm boy who discovered big ideas and the difference

that education can make in made in my life and that I believe can make in the lives of

many, the role of places in a culture.

So I had my own trajectory educationally.

I studied philosophy and classics, worked in the inner city for a while, lived abroad,

did a PhD in Atlanta at Emory University.

And basically, sort of with my, with the other founders of the college, sort of surveyed

the landscape of higher education, in which there are many, let's say, chronic and systemic

problems.

Rather than that would be one way of putting it.

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