Brian getting in the next part of the Irish Breakdown podcast brought to by our friends over at Fandu. We're going to switch gears a little bit, talk about some topics a little bit more Notre Dame centric. Obviously, we just broke down the way too early top 25 that was just released by ESPN. But now it's time to get into a Notre Dame recruiting discussion. And it's not recruits that they're targeting. It's recruits that have actually been on years and are going to be an integral part of this year's roster.

And we're going to start out that conversation by talk about if there's a bias against

Notre Dame in recruiting, which when you look at the outlook of the 23 and the 24 class

is a very fair discussion to have. When you look at things like top players returning in college football,

when you look at top rosters in college football, Notre Dame has always mentioned in those

conversations with quarterback or with players like C.J. Carr, Leonard Moore, Drake Bowen, and Don

Schuller, Tay Johnson, Christian Gray, Anthony Knapp, Kirby Lambert. All of those players have a lot of things in common.

And the thing that they have in common is, yes, they are among some of the best players at their position groups turning in college football.

And two, they are members of the 23 and 24 recruiting classes.

Both classes were majorly underrated by a lot of the major outlets.

So, Brian, that got us thinking. Is Notre Dame, is there a bias against Notre Dame and national recruiting outlets? And that's where we're going to start this conversation. Yeah, I think, let's give you guys some data. So right now, we just talked about ESPN, not, not Brian Driscoll and Trevor Trowbridge, two Notre Dame guys doing a show about Notre Dame,

talking to Notre Dame fans.

Of course, they're going to hype up Notre Dame, right?

Forget what we think of this football team.

Let's just look at the most recent ESPN preseason top 25.

They had Notre Dame fourth in that preseason top 25.

And yet, when you look at the recruiting rankings,

and we put this list together, Drev,

here's some recruiting rankings for Notre Dame to consider.

Well, let's do this first, Trev.

When you look at the starting roster,

let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

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