Is there a future for godless congregations? Paul VanderKlay and James Croft

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🗓️ 18 February 2022

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Humanist leader James Croft leads a thriving godless congregation in an otherwise declining network of Ethical Societies. Does their story mirror that of many declining churches in the west? He talks to Paul VanderKlay who pastors a small church in Sacramento while engaging a growing internet following. What is the future for godless and God-believing communities? For James Croft: https://onlysky.media/author/jcroftFor Paul VanderKlay: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulVanderKlay --- For exclusive resources and to support us: • Unbelievable? Live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • Confident Christianity apologetics course: http://www.premier.org.uk/getconfident • Support (USA): http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support (rest of the world): https://my.premier.org.uk/donate/donate-unbelievable-2021 • For our newsletter https://www.premier.org.uk/Unbelievablenewsletter • For our blog: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievable-the-blog • For the podcast: http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable • Facebook https://www.facebook.com/PremierUnbelievable • Twitter https://twitter.com/unbelievablejb • Insta https://www.instagram.com/justin.brierley

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0:00.0	The Christian from church itself is, I think, in some trouble, and now me saying that will
0:12.4	probably get me into some of the trouble that you brought down upon yourself.
0:16.6	But I've not been shy about talking about this.
0:21.6	There are so few, liberally discommunities that are as creative and careful about the
0:27.2	aesthetics of their experience as conservative churches are.
0:31.3	And I always think, why do the worst ideas in my view obviously have the best branding?
0:36.9	That's not fair!
0:39.3	You're listening to Unbelievable with Justin Browley.
0:45.6	Hello and welcome along to the program that brings you conversations that matter every
0:49.5	weekend.
0:50.5	I'm Justin and a super interesting conversation on the future of Godless and God-believing
0:54.8	congregations in the West for you today.
0:57.3	But just before we leap in, a reminder, there are two live events coming up.
1:00.6	You can be part of, firstly, ask Philip Yancey anything on Tuesday, the 1st of March, the
1:05.7	writer and Christian thinker joining me to talk about his life and ministry, and of course
1:10.1	his autobiography, which came out last year, where the light fell.
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1:35.0	In a Confused and Divided Age, learn how the church can find its authentic voice again,
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