Is the West Getting China Wrong? with Keyu Jin and Gideon Rachman

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🗓️ 17 May 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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In this episode we're joined by renowned economist and China expert Keyu Jin to ask whether the West really understands it's biggest geopolitical and economic rival? Keyu Jin was born in China and educated in the United States. She's now a professor of economics at the London's LSE and author of The New China Playbook which seeks to dispel myths about China's economy and people. You may remember her from our 2019 debate ‘China: Friend or Foe?’ and she joins us again today with Gideon Rachman, Chief Foreign Affairs commentator for the Financial Times. This podcast was Recorded on the 12th of May 2023 in London and was co-produced by Senior Producer Conor Boyle and the The Rachman Review podcast team at the Financial Time. Editing was by Executive Producer Rowan Slaney. —- Our listeners are the heart of Intelligence Squared, and we're always eager to hear from you. Let us know what you'd like us to talk about next, who you think we should invite as guests, and what debates you'd like to hear in the future. You can send us an email or voice note at podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or tweet us at @intelligence2. Our mission is to foster honest debate and compelling conversations worldwide, which is why we offer a wealth of free content every week. We rely on the support of our community to continue our mission, so If you're able, please consider joining us as a member of Intelligence Squared for just £4.99 a month. As a member, you'll have ad-free access to Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content and early access to new episodes. You'll also receive a 15% discount on all in-person Intelligence Squared events, and you'll get our member-only newsletter, The Monthly Read, delivered straight to your inbox. Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, this is Jeremy Bowen, the International Editor of BBC News and I'm here because I want
0:05.1	to talk to you about an event I'm doing with Intelligent Squared on the 2nd of November in London
0:11.5	and I'm going to be talking about the more than 30 years that I've spent reporting on major
0:17.6	events in the Middle East with my great friend and colleague over many, many years just in web
0:25.6	and I'm sure we'll talk about a few other things as well just in and I started at the BBC
0:31.5	on the same day in 1984. So if you'd like to join us either in person or online then visit
0:41.6	IntelligentSquared.com to find out more.
0:49.2	Hello and welcome to Intelligent Squared with me Gideon Rahman. Today's episode is a co-production
0:54.5	with my own podcast, The Rahman Review for the Financial Times. That's a podcast where I meet
0:59.4	the decision makers and thinkers who are shaping world affairs. If you'd like to hear more do
1:03.6	search for the Rahman Review wherever you get your podcasts. We're recording on Friday May the 12th
1:08.6	from our studio in London and I'm excited to introduce our guest, Kay Eugin, who's an economist
1:13.6	and professor at the London School of Economics. She's an advisor to the China Banking Regulatory
1:18.5	Commission on Fintech, has advised and consulted with the World Bank and the IMF. She's born and raised
1:23.5	in Beijing in China but she attended high school and college in the United States. So is a rare
1:29.6	but completely bicultural person and we'll touch on that during the discussion. Your new book is
1:35.1	the new China playbook beyond socialism and capitalism and you deal I think in a fascinating way
1:40.5	with a lot of fundamental questions about how China is developing socially and economically
1:45.4	and I'll get on to that very quickly but as I mentioned you'll somebody who's at home in both
1:50.3	the US and China and yet now there's enormous tension between those two countries. It must be a
1:56.8	kind of difficult period for you to thinking about that. Well first of all it's great to be with
2:01.3	Eugin and thanks so much for having me. Indeed it's for me but also for a large swath of Chinese people
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