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🗓️ 27 May 2025
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James Heale and Michael Simmons join Patrick Gibbons to discuss the speculation that Labour could scrap the two-child benefit cap. Is this just red meat for the left of the party or is it a sign that public opinion around welfare has shifted? And, with mixed messages on the economy, can the country afford to scrap it?
This comes just a week after Labour’s partial U-turn over the winter fuel allowance so, with pressure also increasing from Reform, is the welfare state about to expand?
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0:49.3 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shorts, the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast. |
0:53.3 | I'm Petra Gibbons, and today I'm joined by our deputy political editor James Hill and our economics editor, Michael Simmons. All eyes are on Liverpool today, following yesterday's car attack, which saw a car ram into pedestrians at Liverpool Football Club's title parade. Many people have been injured, some critically, but at the time of recording, there's still no clear motive for the attack, |
1:11.1 | although police have said it isn't terror-related. James, while we await further details, |
1:16.8 | the main political story over the Bank holiday weekend has been around welfare, |
1:20.2 | with suggestions that Labour are considering scrapping the two-child benefit cap. What's been going on? |
1:24.7 | Yep, so on the morning media round on Tuesday, Bridget Philipson gave the |
1:29.4 | strongest signal yet that they are going to scrap the two child benefit cap. The education |
1:34.3 | secretary said it was the Labour government's moral purpose for fewer children to grow up in poverty |
1:39.0 | and that the government had to pay heat. The cost of any of the policy, which is about 3.5 billion. |
1:43.1 | The final decisions will be reached as part of the ongoing child poverty task force set up in the |
1:47.4 | aftermath of last summer's vote. But she spoke in such terms as saying, you know, we hear |
1:51.6 | them, talking about charities who are campaigning for an end of the restriction. We want to make |
1:55.1 | this change happen. And I think what's the thing that's dominated all this is really what I wrote about in the last week's politics column, which is the welfare vote, welfare bill on 11th of June, and that's to take |
2:05.4 | five billion out of disability payments in terms of personal independence payments. And so as |
2:10.9 | result of that, Labour MPs have been flexing their muscles, you know, it was striking, |
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