All right, guys.

Hey, welcome to the Way and In podcast.

We're trying something new, something different.

We've got a member here who joined us this week. So, Justin, brother, we're bringing in members. We're going to have this opportunity to kind of debate about things. Maybe not even debate. I don't know if it's going to be a debate after talking with you a little bit off air beforehand. You seem like a nice guy. I don't think you have anything mean to say it to me or anything, right?

Like, we're going to be cool.

Everything's going to be great.

Are we cool?

Yeah, all right.

Cool. beforehand you seem like a nice guy I don't think you have anything mean to say to me or anything right like we're gonna be cool everything's gonna be great am i my sure am we cool yeah all right cool all right

you're not gonna like start just throwing slurs at me are you no all right there's only one here

there is there's only one the real one so hey um you live in Oregon. You know, your daughter's at wrestling right now,

you know, and you're enjoying life from what it seems like. Oregon's got a great wrestling program, man. They got great wrestling programs, high school programs. I wrestled at the tri-state tournament out there, man. It was a tough, tough tournament, man. They've got great wrestling program. I went to high school in Cortal Lane, which is not far from you.

And you and I were talking off air and you said,

I just missed you a little bit like, man they've got great rustic proclamation i went to high school in cordel lane which is not far from you

and you and you said i just missed you a little bit like i was fighting in that area that northwest

area montana uh Seattle Portland area um Steve boyd promoted a couple of my fights i don't know if he's

still around up there but well i fought the Portland area there and um back in like i would say it was 98

99 i was i was real big on that area there with uh randy gatur was there uh who else was out

there obviously hendo was there uh matt linlin was there i mean i remember i fought in front of them

they were the judges for a couple of my fights uh when i fought that way. But you started fighting shortly after? Yeah. It started right after the ultimate fighter. I was like, dude, I got to start doing this stuff. And actually, like Chris Leibon and Ed Herman came out to the fights. And they were a couple judges and referees to. Yeah, man. Like those guys, they've been around almost as long as me. I was a little bit before them. But yeah, man, I remember Ed coming. He had fought a couple times on some of the shows that I had fought on. I think he was like on the under card or just kind of in that round, same area there. But man, he was, and then Nate Mark, not Nate Mark Hart, Nathan Corey. Nick Nathan Corey Corey yeah he was he fought he fought on some of the same cards uh

Chale fought on a couple of the same cards he fought uh chale ended up fighting my buddy

Trevor Prangley and uh Trevor beat him and then Trevor beat him again and then they got to the

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